The Orange Flaw Follow Up

Orange peeledI knew when I published The Flaw in Orange Thinking yesterday that there would be some push back. I was prepared for that. I welcome it because the post was primarily intended to get a conversation started, and I think at least to some extent it’s done that. That said, in hindsight, I would have changed a couple of things to make my point more clear.

1. It was not an article about numbers.

I spent too much time in the article on the idea of 40 vs. 3,000 hours which wasn’t the main point. What can I say? I’m an accountant. I like numbers, but the point of the whole exercise wasn’t to diminish the impact parents have on the spiritual development of their kids. In my ministry to children of divorce, I see the spiritual impact of children not having those faith role models to rely on. Parents are important. Parents are critical.  My goal was simply to point out that there are also other influencers on a child’s faith (beyond the church and parents), and if we’re coming up with a comprehensive plan to minister to families, we need to consider those influencers both from a standpoint of faith development and the great commission. I would have cut that section down or made the point differently.

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The Flaw in Orange Thinking

orange_PNG766If you work in children’s ministry, you’ve likely heard about the “Orange Theory.” Basically, the idea is that when the church and parents work together in the discipleship of their children, the impact on their spiritual development is multiplied. In is a principal and theory that I (for the most part) agree with. In the past though, I have raised a couple of concerns regarding the implementation of that theory:

  1. I believe many churches, in sincerely trying to implementing this theory, have swung too far back towards parents and abdicated the responsibility of the church in discipleship. In other words, to correct was is perceived as overstepping into the arena of parents in terms of teaching and discipling children, the church has overcorrected and adopted a “that’s the parents’ job” mentality. In so doing, many children (including those whose parents are not interested or not involved) may be “lost in the cracks”. Again, this is a problem in implementation, not in theory. I am not an “Orange hater.” 🙂
  2. Building on that, I believe many churches in an effort to implement an orange way of thinking have focused on the traditional two parent married biological family of the norm and/or assumed discipleship works the same in all types of different families. Again, kids and whole families get left out in the cold when this mistake is made.

Recently though, I have noticed what I consider to be a very significant oversight (or at the very least weakness) in the orange theory. Consider the following typical video for “selling” this theory and focus in particular on how parents and the church are portrayed in the video:

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Orange Week 2.0 – Day #8 Recap

Orange Week Recap Day 8 Well, yesterday was Day #8 and the final day of Orange Week 2.0. The vast majority of the posts encouraged people to register for Orange Conference 2011.  That said, Kenny Conley hit a new high for the week with the number of his posts yesterday.  I have thoroughly enjoyed being part of Orange Week both here and on Kidmin1124.  I’m looking forward to participating in future endeavors as well.  With that said, make sure you don’t miss the final posts from Orange Week 2.0:

orange1KIDMIN1124 (WAYNE STOCKS): Orange Conference 2011 – Register Today!

orange1ORANGE LEADERS: Day 6 Orange Week 2.0

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Orange Week 2.0 – Day #7 Recap

Orange Week Recap Day 7 Day 7 was a day for weighing in with past Orange Conferences. Make sure to check out all the great articles from yesterday. Today marks the end of Orange Week, and the final Dad in the Middle Post will be tomorrow morning with a recap of today’s posts:

orange1KIDMIN1124 (WENDY DOUGLAS): I Am That Mom

orange1KIDMIN1124 (THERESA HASKINS): My Time as an Orange Conference Volunteer

orange1KIDMIN1124 (JARED MASSEY): Orange From A Distance: The View

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Orange Week 2.0 Recap – Day #6

Orange Week Recap Day 6 Day 6 was a day for Orange Dreams and was, unfortunately, not a day with a lot of posts. Barbara Graves and I both posted about dreams over on, but there wasn’t a whole lot of other activity. I did pick up a late post from Kenny Conley on Orange failures that didn’t make yesterday’s list, and Jonathan Cliff weighed in with his favorite posts from the week. Here are the posts that were put up yesterday.

orange1 KIDMIN1124 (BARBARA GRAVES): Orange Dreams

orange1 KIDMIN1124 (WAYNE STOCKS): My Dreams For Children’s Ministry

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Orange Week 2.0 – Day #5 Recap

Orange Week Recap Day 5 Day 5 was supposed to be about Orange Failures.  At the end of the day, there weren’t nearly as many posts as earlier in the week, but the ones put up were definitely worth reading.  As always, please check out Kenny Conley’s summary each day which includes a lot more detail than mine including a brief description of what each article from the previous day was about.

orange1 KIDMIN1124 (BARBARA GRAVES): Orange Wednesdays

orange1 KIDMIN1124 (WENDY DOUGLAS): Just Say No to Devos

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